Johannes KNABENSCHUH

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(fm Markuskirche, Butzbach Parish Birth Register Vol. 0, Pg. 70): b. 18 Mar 1794, bap. 19 Mar 1794, father Christian Knabenschuh strumpfweber, mother Maria Christina Lichtenfels. (Marginal note): 6 Jan 1865 he hung himself (age 70y 9mo).

(fm Knabenschuh family tree w/ notes, fm Erika Gillman to Ron Kay): "Strumpfwebermeister and (by 1850) Zollenfeber ?? N. B. He built in Baden the "Kaffee malerei" " (Coffee Painting = a coffee shop?). "He was of big build, dark hair and noticeably dark blue eyes. There were no descendants - all the children died as toddlers".(more notes): "He was "The Knabenschuh Fool". Why? During an argument with his wife, he left without saying a word, on Christmas Eve in the year 1827, and without ever sending not even a single note, hereturned back in the summer of 1841 "when the harvest was being cut". He took the scythe in his hand as if nothing had happened, and said only "Sophia I am here again". He had been traveling around the world, and met in Spain as he was returning "Heinrich" (Johann Heinrich, b. 20.9.1821). "He was a man of few words, he was also of large build and as strong as a bear. He did not talk much, but hedid bring lots of money upon his return, and lived with his wife in good circumstances". (Later note in a different hand): "Suicide".

(fm Markuskirche, Butzbach Parish Death Register Vol. 9, Pg. 332): In the year of Christ 1865, the 6th of January, 3 o'clock PM, Johann Knabenschuh, citizen of here and master of hose-weaving, was found dead in his room; he had sought death because of disgust of life and had found it by strangling with hanging; age 70 years, 9 months, 18 days; he was delivered to the Anatomic Theater in Giessen according to a resolution of the County-Court from the same day. Karl Naumann, Pfarrer.

(fm KnButz-1 of 28 Apr 1998):

Birth 1794 March 18th. of Johannes Knabenschuh [i]

Baptised March 19th.

Father Christian Kn. [I] ; Sockenstricker.

Mother Maria Christina Lichtenfels

Godfather Johannes Grifal ??

Confirmed 1808 June 6th., p 33. See event.

Married Katharina Sophia Muth, 1818 May 17th. She was 26 years old. See print of event.

Died 1865 January 6th. per baptismal record. He hung himself.

Ref. p70 of Vol.0, or p70 Entry 18 for Tabular data. Kfam-214. See also Ref. 6 for more details.

Comment Print made. Translated by REK/RTS.

(fm KnButz-1 of 28 Apr 1998):

17th May 1818 Page 122 Entry 6

In the year of Christ 1818, on the 17th of May, was in the Stadt-PfarrKirche and after the third proclamation wedded and blessed Johannes Knabenschuh, the local citizen and master long sock weaver to Katharina Sofia Muth from Offenbach. He is 24 years old, she 26 years.

The parents of the newly married groom are Christian Knabenschuh, the local citizen and master stocking weaver, who is still living, and the deceased mother Maria Christina Lichtenfels. In this marriage eight children were conceived, four sons andas many daughters. Of all of them Johannes Knabenschuh is the youngest child.

The brides parents are Johann Conrad Muth, citizen and master box maker ??from Offenbach and Dorothea nee Burkhardt. In this case there are two children, one son and a daughter. She is the oldest child.

The present protocol was signed and witnessed besides myself, the Grand Dutchy Church Manager and the first city pastor, by Johann Ernst, the son of Conrad Knabenschuh, the local burger and master long sock weaver, the --------brother's son, and also by Heinrich Ludwig Braun ein Maurergeselle [ a bricklayer], who is related to the bride.

Signatures : M. Johann Georg Friedrich Leim, Pastor

Johann Ernst Knabenschuh

Heinrich Ludwig Braun

(fm KnButz-1 of 28 Apr 1998):

Marriage 1818 May 17th. of Johannes Knabenschuh, Bürger and Strumpfwebermeister and Katherina Sophia Muth fromOffenbach. The parents of the groom are Christian Knabenschuh [I] the local Bürger and Strumpfwebermeister, who is still living, and the deceased mother Maria ChristinaLichtenfels. In this marriage 8 children were conceived, four sons and as many daughters. Of all of them Johannes Knabenschuh is the youngest child., age 24 years. The bride's parents are John Conrad Muth, burger and masterbox maker ??from Offenbach, and Dorathea Burkhardt. In this family there are two children, one son and a daughter - and the bride is the eldest child, age 26 years.

Signatures Johann Ernst Knabenschuh ; and Heinrich Ludwig Braun a brick-layer who is related to the bride.

Ref. p122 Entry6 of film ; Kfam-215. See also Ref. 6 - Kath. from Offenbach ; she died 11.9.1857 in Butzbach. Also see Ref. 6 for J.Kn.'s strange wandering story.

Comment Translated by RTS+AH from Print. Double check the 'master-boxmaker' with Herr Heil.

Brief History :

1794 March 18th. Born in Butzbach to Christian [I] and Maria Christina Lichtenfels.

1808 June 6th. Confirmed. Thereafter likely apprenticed as Strumpfweber - but to whom?

1812 Likely completed his apprenticeship and became a Journeyman Strumpfweber.

1813 Called for military service but discharged ; height 4' 11". See 1811-1812 Musterlisten.

1816 Found unfit for military service. See 1811-1812 Musterlisten.

1816 Likely completed his Vanderjahren and become a Strumpfwebermeister.

1818 May 11th. Married to Katharina Sophia Muth. They had 3 children who all died young.

1833 Sept. 30th. In a document signed by representatives of all Butzbach's guilds, Johannes Kn. signed for Strumpfwebers. See Kfam-410

1855 Dec. 31st. Johs Kn. leaving his strumpfhandler & strumpfweber activities.See Kfam-410

1856 March 18th. Johs Kn. re-entered his Guild activities.

1856 Sept. 24th. Stadt & Landbote. An Apartment for rent by Johs [I] Kn. , Langgasse. 25/1 See Print.

1857 September 11th. His wife Kath. Sophia died.

1865 January 9th. He hung himself because he was tired of life.

(fm KnButz-1 of 28 Apr 1998):

Page 332, Entry 6, Film#1197075 1865 Johannes Knabenschuh

In the year of 1865 on the 6th of January, at 3 PM died Johannes Knabenschuh, local Burger and Master stocking weaver, .... was found in hisroom, he had had enough of Life and choose an unchristian death by hanging himself. ... was seventy years old, ... with witnesses was shipped on 7th January as per local custom .... to Giessen. Signed Carl Neumann, Pastor

(fm KnButz-1 of 28 Apr 1998):

Death 1865 January 6th. ; of Johannes Knabenschuh

"In the Year of Christ 1865 on the 6th of January, at 3 p.m. died Johannes Knabenschuh, local Bürger and Master stocking weaver, .... was found in his room, he had had enough of Life and choose an unchristian death by hanging himself. ... was 70 years, 9 months, 18 days old, ... with witnesses was shipped on 7th January as per local custom .... to the Anatomical Theatre in Giessen according to a resolution of the County Court" Signed Carl Neumann, Pastor.

Ref. p332 Entry 6 of film#1197075. Kfam-216.

Transcribed By RTS, and also by AH from print.

[fm Kfam-1135 of 10 Nov 2000]:

But what I found most interesting is the 10 May 1818 marriage of Johannes

Knabenschuh in Offenbach. This record tells an interesting story; since we

knew already of the same couple's 1818 May 17th. marriage inButzbach. From

which Butzbach record we learn that: Johannes Knabenschuh was a Bürger and

Strumpfwebermeister the son of Christian Knabenschuh [i] the local Bürger

and Strumpfwebermeister, who is still living, and the deceased mother Maria

Christina Lichtenfels; and that he married Katherina Sophia Muth from

Offenbach who's parents were John Conrad Muth, burger and

Kaffawebermeister??(maybe a velvet weaver?) from Offenbach, and Dorathea

Burkhardt. In this family there are two children, one son and a daughter -

and the bride is the eldest child,age 26 years. Signatures on the Butzbach

marriage entry are : Johann Ernst Knabenschuh [his 14 year old nephew - good

signature]; and Heinrich Ludwig Braun a brick-layer who is related tothe

bride.

Obviously Johannes[i] from Butzbach married Kath. Muth in Offenbach at the

family's "Reform" Church (which would have satisfied the Offenbach family

andmade the marriage legal to them), then one week later (17 May 1818) they married again

in Butzbach's "Evangelische" Church (which would have made the Butzbach

family happy and made the marriage legal and their children legitimate in

the eyes of Butzbach). Wow! I guess that in those days this was how things

were done. We must remember that there was no easy way from eitherof the

families to travel between Offenbach (Main) & Butzbach. I wonder what

Johannes[i] was doing in Offenbach? Maybe he was finishing off his Geselle

period. I will obtain the Offenbach film to see if it contains any

information of interest. I never did understand what the occupation

Kaffawebermeister really was. Maybe the Offenbach record will write it a

different way.

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