Robert OULD

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!From Robert are descended the Olds families of America. !The record of Hartford Quarterly Court p 72, 19 Feb 1667, states: "Noah Drake undertaketh for Robert Old for 30 shillings fine for night walking; Robert Old oblidgeth to repay it to his master, Drake and in case he falls into such transgression while he remaynes servant to Jacob Drake he is to pay to instead of his 30 shillings the sum of 3 pounds." This is the first mention of Robert Old in America. !Robert Old was first in Windsor, Ct in 1667 apprenticed to Jacob Drake. He removed to Suffield, CT in 1673. He was one of the first 5 Proprietors in Suffield. He also made and laid brick. He was called Doctor and was agent of the town at legislation in Boston in 1694. He lived on that part of Northampton Road called "Old Street." He died 16 Jan 1728, a small slab in the W. old church yard marking his burial place; the addition of the letter "s" to the surname is of late date in Suffield records. In 1696 "Goodman" Old made brick and built the chimney for the minister's house. He was not qualified to vote in the first town meeting and probably never made freeman. !Olds Family References: 1. Ma. Soldiers and Sailors of the Rev War Vol XI p 629. 2. TAG Vol 45 Nicknames in New England. Nabby = Abigail. 3. Olds Family in England and America by Edson B Olds. pp14 - 17, 55-57, 61-67 and 129-131. 4. Genealogy of The Family of Olds by Robert Olds Bethiany. pp10-19, 228 and 22-26. 5. Genealogical Dictionary of New England by Savage. p307. 6. Genealogies and Biographies of Ancient Windsor by Stiles. Vol 2, p 538. 7. The Biography of a Town, Sheffield, Ct by Robert Hayden Alwin p 9. 8. Genealogical Register p 696. 9. Known Military DeadDuring the American Rev War by C S Peters p127. 10. Family Bibles of Andrew Jackson Olds 11. Olds Family History owned by Nancy (Olds) Fitts. 12. WPA and Census Records. !The pedigree of the family goes back in an unbroken line to Roger Wol d, who lived at Flixhume in Yorkshire in 1189. The seal of his son, William, is appended to one of the Campbell Charters in the British Museum. From Yorkshire the main branch of the family moved to Rowton Hall in Shropshire where they lived from 1257 to 1815. They appear to be people of education for their times, as many of them were cloister bred, and during that troublous period all education eminated from the monisteries and cloisters. Robert Olde married Agnes Courtney and she brought him an estate near Yeovil in that county, called "Chilton Cantelo" and sometimes "Olds Oak" or "Oldsoke." In 1759 it passed through marriage to the Goodfords, who still possess it under the name of Chilton Cantelo. !Various tribes of Indians combined under the leadership of King Philip to drive the colonials from their Connecticutt River homes..Their forays had been repulsed with losses to both sides at Deerfield, Hadley, Northampton and Hatfield. A price was placed on Philip's head. His followers were hungry so he took them up river to the fishing places by the Upper Falls to secure a stock of provisions before they continued their attempt to destroy the towns and secure the Colonist's corn and cattle. A large body of Indians gathered near the "Upper Falls" of the Connecticutt River, in several large parties. One scouting sortee succeeded in stampeding about 70 head of cattle from Hatfield and slaughtering them. The colonists decided to go against the Indians. On 18 May 1676 Capt. Turner took about 150 volunteers who mounted their own horses and marched from Hatfield towards the Falls, 20 miles away through the woods, past the ruins of Deerfield, eluding the Indian outpost. Their surprise attack at dawn killed many Indians. Several larger groups of Indians from camps above and below attacked and continued the battle as the Colonists withdrew, fighting all the way back to Deerfield. Capt. Turner was shot. During the engagement 37 Colonists were killed including Serg. John Dickinson of Hadley in the battle at "Turner's Falls." Other of the author's ancestors present at the battle were Nathaniel Foot of Hatfield, Robert Olds of Springfield and Serg Bardwell who reported that he counted 1200 Indians dead at the place of attack. A final estimate was made that about 200 Indians were killed. !10 Feb 1703/4 Robert and Dorate, his wife sells several parcels of land in Suffield to their son, Robert Olds. !6 Jan 1714/15 Robert Olds of Suffield sells 11 1/2 acres of land to his brother, John Olds. !12 Jan 1715 Robert Olds of Suffield transferred 10 acres of land with appurtenances in the township of Suffield to his son, Robert Olds, of Springfield. !17 Jul 1724 Robert Olds of Suffield transferred to his son, John, land that was granted him for his volunteer services in King Philip's War.

!MARRIAGE: Archive sheet-LAUNCELOT GRANGER (1637) & JOANNA ADAMS. Submitted by Rebecca Stout of Salt Lake City, UT in 1968. Sources: A3,B 12 Robert Adams and His Descendants; R 8, B 1 Savage's Gen.Dict.: Launcelot Granger, s/o Launcelot, chr 25 Jun 1637 England, d.3 Sept 1689 Suffield, Harford, Conn., md 4 Jan 1654 to Joanna Adams. Joanna Adams, d/o Robert Adams and Eleanor Wilmot, b.1633-4 England. 11 children born Newbury, Essex, MA. #7 Dorothy Granger b. 17 feb 1663/4, md apr 1689 (Dr.) Robert Olds. !IGI, MARRIAGE: Robert Old or Ould, Md. 1 Apr 1689, Suffield,Hartford,Conn to Dorothy Granger. SS 20 Oct 1936 Logan !MARRIAGES, DEATH, CHILDREN: SUFFIELD,HARTFORD,CONN VITAL RECORDS, FHL:1317067-2, P.3: "Robert Old the first-wife Susanah who decd 6 Jan 1688, 6 children. Robert himself joined in marriage with DOROTHY GRANGER 1 Apr 1689. 7 children. Robert Old himself decd Jan.16, 1727-8."

Dorothy/Granger 1 Apr 1689

!From Robert are descended the Olds families of America. !The record of Hartford Quarterly Court p 72, 19 Feb 1667, states: "Noah Drake undertaketh for Robert Old for 30 shillings fine for night walking; Robert Old oblidgeth to repay it to his master, Drake and in case he falls into such transgression while he remaynes servant to Jacob Drake he is to pay to instead of his 30 shillings the sum of 3 pounds." This is the first mention of Robert Old in America. !Robert Old was first in Windsor, Ct in 1667 apprenticed to Jacob Drake. He removed to Suffield, CT in 1673. He was one of the first 5 Proprietors in Suffield. He also made and laid brick. He was called Doctor and was agent of the town at legislation in Boston in 1694. He lived on that part of Northampton Road called "Old Street." He died 16 Jan 1728, a small slab in the W. old church yard marking his burial place; the addition of the letter "s" to the surname is of late date in Suffield records. In 1696 "Goodman" Old made brick and built the chimney for the minister's house. He was not qualified to vote in the first town meeting and probably never made freeman. !Olds Family References: 1. Ma. Soldiers and Sailors of the Rev War Vol XI p 629. 2. TAG Vol 45 Nicknames in New England. Nabby = Abigail. 3. Olds Family in England and America by Edson B Olds. pp14 - 17, 55-57, 61-67 and 129-131. 4. Genealogy of The Family of Olds by Robert Olds Bethiany. pp10-19, 228 and 22-26. 5. Genealogical Dictionary of New England by Savage. p307. 6. Genealogies and Biographies of Ancient Windsor by Stiles. Vol 2, p 538. 7. The Biography of a Town, Sheffield, Ct by Robert Hayden Alwin p 9. 8. Genealogical Register p 696. 9. Known Military DeadDuring the American Rev War by C S Peters p127. 10. Family Bibles of Andrew Jackson Olds 11. Olds Family History owned by Nancy (Olds) Fitts. 12. WPA and Census Records. !The pedigree of the family goes back in an unbroken line to Roger Wol d, who lived at Flixhume in Yorkshire in 1189. The seal of his son, William, is appended to one of the Campbell Charters in the British Museum. From Yorkshire the main branch of the family moved to Rowton Hall in Shropshire where they lived from 1257 to 1815. They appear to be people of education for their times, as many of them were cloister bred, and during that troublous period all education eminated from the monisteries and cloisters. Robert Olde married Agnes Courtney and she brought him an estate near Yeovil in that county, called "Chilton Cantelo" and sometimes "Olds Oak" or "Oldsoke." In 1759 it passed through marriage to the Goodfords, who still possess it under the name of Chilton Cantelo. !Various tribes of Indians combined under the leadership of King Philip to drive the colonials from their Connecticutt River homes..Their forays had been repulsed with losses to both sides at Deerfield, Hadley, Northampton and Hatfield. A price was placed on Philip's head. His followers were hungry so he took them up river to the fishing places by the Upper Falls to secure a stock of provisions before they continued their attempt to destroy the towns and secure the Colonist's corn and cattle. A large body of Indians gathered near the "Upper Falls" of the Connecticutt River, in several large parties. One scouting sortee succeeded in stampeding about 70 head of cattle from Hatfield and slaughtering them. The colonists decided to go against the Indians. On 18 May 1676 Capt. Turner took about 150 volunteers who mounted their own horses and marched from Hatfield towards the Falls, 20 miles away through the woods, past the ruins of Deerfield, eluding the Indian outpost. Their surprise attack at dawn killed many Indians. Several larger groups of Indians from camps above and below attacked and continued the battle as the Colonists withdrew, fighting all the way back to Deerfield. Capt. Turner was shot. During the engagement 37 Colonists were killed including Serg. John Dickinson of Hadley in the battle at "Turner's Falls." Other of the author's ancestors present at the battle were Nathaniel Foot of Hatfield, Robert Olds of Springfield and Serg Bardwell who reported that he counted 1200 Indians dead at the place of attack. A final estimate was made that about 200 Indians were killed. !10 Feb 1703/4 Robert and Dorate, his wife sells several parcels of land in Suffield to their son, Robert Olds. !6 Jan 1714/15 Robert Olds of Suffield sells 11 1/2 acres of land to his brother, John Olds. !12 Jan 1715 Robert Olds of Suffield transferred 10 acres of land with appurtenances in the township of Suffield to his son, Robert Olds, of Springfield. !17 Jul 1724 Robert Olds of Suffield transferred to his son, John, land that was granted him for his volunteer services in King Philip's War.

From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996. Non-standard gedcom data: 1

!As per Velva Williams' record Dorothy was married to Dr. Robert Old.

Robert Ould (Old) son of John Olde and _______ Gatherest, of Shernorne, County, Dorset, England was born at Sherborne in 1645, emigrated to America, date unknown; first discovered at Windsor, Connecticut, in 1667. In 1670 Dr. Robert Ould was granted 50 acres, at the corner of High Street and New Haven Road, in Suffield. The old cemetary adjoins its Northeast corner. "Robert was one of the first five proprietors of Suffield and was a prominent man in the young town and he was first to have the title of Doctor. He was agent of the town at the General Court (Legislature) in Boston in 1694 having made two trips to Boston, receiving for expenses, himself and horse, 7-15-0. The services rendered by Robert were invaluable, the town was poor and unable to pay the Colonial Taxes, which amounted to the great sum of 228-4-9. By his efforts these were 'Rebated, Remitted and Forgiven' by the General Court. The land he dwelt upon can be traced from the records. A highway, called 'Old Street,' was named long before the name showed up in the Records." He died at Suffield, January 16, 1727/28. From Robert are descended the OLDS OF AMERICA. (Courtesy Edson B. Olds and Miss Susan Sophia Gascoyne)

Date of emigration unknown. First found in Windsor, Connecticut in 1667 as apprentice to Jacob Drake.

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" Robert Olds of Windsor and Suffield, CT and his descendants"

An evolving electronic document by

Dan W. Olds

Spartanburg, SC

June 18, 2002

"The history of this branch of the Olds family was the major component of at least one genealogy.1 The immigrant, Robert Ould (Old, etc.) was said to be a son of John and __________ (Gatherest) Old of Sherborne, Co. Dorset, England. Robert was born there in 1645. His father was buried at Hillfield, 15 Jan. 1682, and his mother was buried at Chard, 29 May 1660.2 Although I have examined some of the parish registers and tax lists there, I have found no record of this Robert Old in England. The English connection is based on an English pedigree showing Robert Ould was born in 1645, moved to America and settled in New Windsor.3

1. Robert Old is first found in America at Windsor, CT, in 1667 as an apprentice to Jacob Drake (perhaps he should be described as a servant; need to know more about Drake, as well). On 19 Feb. 1667, Noah Drake agreed to pay Robert Ould's 30 shilling fine for night walking.4 Robert Old was to pay this back to his master and if "he falls into transgression while he remaynes servant to Jacob Drake, he is to pay instead of his thirty shillings, the sum of three pounds."

He married Susannah Hanford on 31 Dec. 1669.5 His household size was 2 on 7 March 1670.6 They had two children born at Windsor7 . Although there is no record of his having held land at Windsor,"Robert Old, of Windsor, in the County of Hartford, has assigned and made over to Thos. Bissell of Windsor all his estate to take out as much as is due to himself and to allow to the wife of Robert Old out of the rest of the estate as she desires for herself and children. Dated Oct. 27, 1673".8 Robert Old was one of the five founders of Suffield, CT, in 1670 where he was granted (allowed to purchase for 4 pence per acre) fifty acres of land on Jan. 26, 1670.9 It was in 1673 that he moved to Suffield.10 He lived on the part of Northampton Road later called Old Street. In 1696, "Goodman" Old made bricks, and built the chimney for the minister's house. In 1696, he was appointed town agent to manage the town's case before the General Assembly. The town was poor and unable to pay its colonial tax. Due to his efforts, the taxes were forgiven. He appears to have been a prominent man of the town, one of the first five proprietors, owning 50 acres at the corner of Northampton Road and New Haven Road, adjoining the old cemetery. However, he was not qualified to vote at the first town meeting and probably was never made a freeman.11 It is unknown how he got the title Dr. Robert Old and what this title meant.

Susannah (Hanford) Old died 6 Jan. 168812 and Robert married Dorothy Granger on 1 April 168913 14 (i.e. three months later). She was a daughter of Launcelot Granger who was born in 1620, married Joanna Adams in 1654, and died 3 Sept. 168915 . Sheldon applies the death date, 16 Jan. 1727/8, to this Robert Old, although the same date has been given for his son Robert.16 17 The town records quoted below make it clear that it was the first Robert Olds who died on this date.

The following is from a typed copy of page 3, Vol. 1 of the Suffield Vital Records, sent by Dorothy K.

McCarty, Town Clerk, in her letter to me dated Nov. 24, 1987. Robert Old the first Mindwell Old the Daughter of Robert Old which Susanah his Wife Gave to him born February the 4th 1674. Handford his Son born March the 24th, 1677. William his Son born Feb". the 7th 1679 and Die- (died) Augs. 24th 1680, his son William born August the 28th 1680. his Son Ebenezer born Dec. 22 1688. Susannah his Daughter born October the 21st 1683. Ebenezer his son Die" (died) Decem" 30th 1688. his Wife Susannah Dei" (died) January the 6th 1688. and himself joined im [sic] Marriage with Dorothy Granger April the 1st 1689.

John his son which Dorothy his Wife bore to him born July the 11th 1691. Ebenezer his son born Jan. 22. 1692-3. his son Jonathn died Decemb" the 19th 1696. his Son Josiah born March the 4th. 1694-5. Jonathan his Son born June the 8th 1698. Nathanl his Son born March the 2nd, 1701-2. his Son Joseph born Feb. 7th his son Josiah died December the 28th 1712. Robert Old himself died January the 16th. 1727-8.

Olds lists the birth and death year for the first Ebenezer as 1681, which is between William and Susannah.The order is followed by Sheldon18 and Stiles19 . The out of sequence record leaves doubt about his birth year.

However, this vital record listing surely answers the question of which Robert Old died in Jan. 1727/8. A small stone in the Suffield Cemetery marked his grave.20 Dorothy (Granger) Old died _______ 1728.21 This date, however, seems to be contradicted by the fact that widow Dorothy Olds joined the church at Suffield on 29 June 1735.22 All fourteen children are named by Sheldon23 , Stiles24 and Olds25 , perhaps from Sheldon, in the order given below. Robert Ould, b. 9 Oct. 1670, and Jonathan Old, b. 4 Jan. 1672, are listed as sons of Robert Ould and Susannah Hanford in the Matthew Grant Record, a private record of Windsor Vital Statistics kept from the early years of the town.26 Later, in summarizing the births in Windsor from the beginning up to 17 Aug. 1677, Grant list Robert Ould with two, thus not including Mindwell and Handford who had been born at Suffield by that time. Each birth after the first two is in Barbour27 and both parents are named in the record.28 The Barbour Collection lists an Allyn Old, who died 12 Sept. 1675, from Vol. 1, p. 40 of theWindsor record. 29 This, however, should be old Mst. [i.e. Mistress] Allyn who was one of the twelve people who died at Windsor in 1675, as recorded in the Matthew Grant Record."

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